Did the Narcissist Ever Really Love Me?

narcissistOne of the most commonly asked questions from those who have given their hearts and souls to a narcissist is “did the narcissist ever really love me?” At first the relationship is very intense and romantic and it seems perhaps you have finally found “the one.”

I recently watched a movie where a character comically asked “are you still chasing after the elusive “one?” We often spend our lives waiting for “the one” who will finally make everything right with our world. Initially it may seem the narcissistic lover is “the one.” But after the honeymoon is over the tables turn. Why? Well because the honeymoon is over and narcissists love the honeymoon.

In all healthy relationships there comes a time where the honeymoon must evolve into something real. This means it is time for real communication, dealing with issues, concerns and commitments. It means having the ability to work with a partner, to consider the needs of that partner, to let go of the need to be “right” in favor of having true communication, accountability and responsibility. If you have a concern in your relationship you should be able to take your concern to your partner and be heard. You should also be able to listen, really listen to the concerns of your partner. In a narcissistic relationship this doesn’t happen.

The reason the narcissist loves the honeymoon is because he/she can be stuck in the Peter Pan, terminal boyhood/girlhood stage where one doesn’t have to be responsible or accountable. A narcissist doesn’t want to deal with issues in the relationship. If any issues are brought up he/she will be quick to dump them back on you and walk away. Narcissists loves the romance, the attention, admiration, adoration, promise of ideal love and hope that he/she has found “the one” who will tolerate all his/her weirdness without question. When the beloved begins to question him/her, differ or make demands, his/her “weirdness” escalates. He/she resorts to manipulation techniques to get you to stop bringing issues to the forefront. The greatest narcissistic manipulation technique is to dump it all on you. It is your fault! You are too demanding! You don’t accept him/her as he/she is!

The narcissist doesn’t want to grow up and be accountable. He/she feels entitled to constant attention and admiration without having to invest anything more than the initial time it took to woo you. Once you have been wooed you should be hooked in and he/she shouldn’t have to invest anymore emotional energy. The narcissist has groomed you to be a constant source of admiration, attention, sex, affection, and nurturing. The piece that is missing is that the narcissist doesn’t seem to believe that he/she should reciprocate.

With men there is an unlimited supply of selfless women out there who believe in taking care of a man and catering to his needs without concern for their own. It is pretty easy for a narcissistic man to groom a woman to play this role. With female narcissists they want to be the queen and look for men who will completely adore and admire them, once again without any concern for their own needs. Men who had demanding or narcissistic Mother’s might easily align with a woman like this and cater to her every need in order to keep her around.

Underneath it all narcissists can’t enter into a place of mature love. Their love is immature, self centered and needy. They are looking for unconditional love but are unwilling to give it; and so the question “did he ever really love me” can be answered simply by saying “he/she loved you to the extent he/she was able.

The narcissist never developed the ability to move beyond the honeymoon and upgrade to mature love. He/she is stuck in “young” love or “puppy” love which is intense, passionate and romantic while it lasts. For a time, you might be “the one” for the narcissist. But when you begin to have needs or demands in the relationship, or you are disagreeable, the dynamic will change. When you begin to question his/her behavior whether it be viewing porn, staying out late, flirting with others, cheating or ignoring you, the narcissist will be angry at you because he/she wants you to completely affirm and validate him/her, no matter what the behavior is. The narcissist expects you to tolerate the affairs, porn, sex addiction, avoidance issues, and all other unhealthy behavior. This is narcissism! Narcissism is self centered and immature. It doesn’t consider you or your needs.

Often when you are cut off, abandoned, devalued and discarded, it is a punishment for your refusal to comply. As victims of narcissistic abuse we often believe it is somehow our fault that he or she treated us with such contempt. We wrack our brains wondering what we did to deserve such cruel treatment; but it is and never has been about you. What you did is refuse to cater to the narcissistic needs and affirm him/her unconditionally. Unless you want to completely abandon yourself and be absorbed by the narcissist, it is unrealistic to play this role. Often we do, for quite a long time. We are conditioned to turn a blind eye, to take him/her back after the affair and not ask questions, and suffer through the cold spells and silent treatments. Eventually one of two things happens. Either the narcissist gets bored with you because you no longer challenge him/her, or you get fed up with his/her behavior and start making demands for yourself which may eventually result in your leaving.

You can’t always know what is going on inside the tortured mind of the narcissist. The one thing you can know is that he/she is unable to truly give you what you want, need and deserve; a whole, healthy relationship. So whether you leave or the narcissist leaves, you are better off.

It is natural to love the narcissist, even after it is over. If your love was real then honor and embrace it. Sometimes the narcissistic relationship shows us how deeply we can and do love. Playing with Peter Pan can be a magical experience, one that you don’t forget. It can be intense, passionate, sexy, and romantic. But you are destined to live in never never land which means you will never have anything real or true. It is all only make believe.

I believe there is a part of the narcissistic soul that does love those he/she gets involved with; at least some of them; however the narcissist may also use relationships to get something he/she wants. The narcissist may marry for money, prestige or power. A narcissist may get involved with you because you are eye candy and make him/her look good. But then, most people make choices based on what’s in it for them. Most people are physically attracted to someone because they perceive that person as hot, or beautiful, or gorgeous. People with money, or power or prestige never have trouble finding a mate, because the mate is more attracted to the goodies, than the person. Many people are also attracted to fixer uppers hoping they can rehabilitate them and make them the “perfect mate.”

Love only goes as deep as we do, and frankly if your mate doesn’t run very deep than neither will the love. If your mate hasn’t taken the time to develop himself or herself than it’s not likely going to change in the relationship. If you’ve spent your life embracing “personal growth” and your mate has never read a book on the topic, then you can bet that personal growth isn’t high on his/her list of priorities.

Did the narcissist ever really love you? Perhaps he/she loved the idea of you. Perhaps the narcissist loved how you made him/her feel. Perhaps he/she loved the fantasy of what life with you could bring. Perhaps the narcissist loved the idea that he/she has finally found someone who will love him/her unconditionally and ignore all the shortcomings. Perhaps he/she was taken by your beauty, intelligence or wit, but was never strong enough to go the next level. Ultimately that is what you wanted right? You wanted a real, mature, loving, caring, nurturing relationship that considered your needs and you simply weren’t going to get it from someone that shallow.

If you tell yourself that the narcissist loved you to the best of his/her ability, given what he/she had to work with, you can finally make peace with it all and let that person go to be who and what he or she is….a narcissist.

healingabusethickpaperbackfront (2)To read more on recovery from narcissistic abuse read “Healing Narcissistic Abuse and Finding the True Self.”

Counseling for Narcissistic Abuse

Cut the Psychic Cords!

Loving How You Feel; Even when you don’t Feel Good!

Tuesday August 20th at 4pm PST, 5pm MST, 6pm CST, 7pm EST on Pandora’s Box with Kaleah

10378146_315960601939374_3868825891501148816_nWe often equate feeling bad with feeling we are bad.  When we are angry, sad, depressed, confused, and dealing with a lot of intense emotions it is easy to feel there is something seriously wrong with us.  Especially when everything feels wrong.

In this episode of Pandora’s Box, Kaleah explores the world of “feelings” and how to embrace and love yourself in all your complex emotional states.  Learn to embrace your “feeling” Self in a powerful way.

Listen on BlogTalkRadio

Listen on Sedona Talk Radio

Loving How You Feel; Even when you don’t Feel Good!

Tuesday August 20th at 4pm PST, 5pm MST, 6pm CST, 7pm EST on Pandora’s Box with Kaleah

10378146_315960601939374_3868825891501148816_nWe often equate feeling bad with feeling we are bad.  When we are angry, sad, depressed, confused, and dealing with a lot of intense emotions it is easy to feel there is something seriously wrong with us.  Especially when everything feels wrong.

In this episode of Pandora’s Box, Kaleah explores the world of “feelings” and how to embrace and love yourself in all your complex emotional states.  Learn to embrace your “feeling” Self in a powerful way.

Listen on BlogTalkRadio

Listen on Sedona Talk Radio

Loving Yourself When You Feel Hated

Part 7 of “From Self Loathing to Self Loving.”

Tuesday July 14, 2015, 4pm PST, 5pm MST, 6pm CST, 7pm EST on Pandora’s Box with Kaleah

IMG_0339h

headshot_300wIn my work with victims of narcissistic abuse I notice how difficult it can be for those who have been devalued and discarded by a narcissistic personality to pull themselves back up and find love again.

People who are very loving, compassionate and empathetic are often targets for the projection of the shadow from unconscious people. Those who carry a lot of light are also the target for those lost in darkness. When one is targeted by unconscious people it can be difficult to stay strong in oneself. Even Jesus was challenged by the constant persecution that came with walking in the light and speaking his truth.

How do we stay firmly rooted in the light of love? How do we stay true to ourselves when that truth is constantly being distorted by others? How do we love ourselves when we are hated by others?

In this episode of Pandora’s Box Kaleah joins with seasoned Psychologist Ernie Vecchio in a heartfelt conversation about staying anchored in love regardless of what is going on around you.

Listen to the live show on Blog Talk Radio

Listen on Sedona Talk Radio

This show will be recorded and available in the archives.